MS Disk Cleanup doesn't remove as many redundant files as Cleanup!
(http://www.stevengould.org/) and I've just come across CCleaner
(http://www.ccleaner.com/) which removes even more. I've used and trusted
Cleanup! for some while now. However, CCleaner suggests removing Windows
log files (e.g.KBnnnnnn.log). I presume it is safe to remove these files
but what are the consequences of doing so?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway

Good question....so I have bookmarked your thread.


"Bill Ridgeway" <info@1001solutions.co.uk> wrote in message
news:eR73Njy5IHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> MS Disk Cleanup doesn't remove as many redundant files as Cleanup!
> (http://www.stevengould.org/) and I've just come across CCleaner
> (http://www.ccleaner.com/) which removes even more. I've used and trusted
> Cleanup! for some while now. However, CCleaner suggests removing Windows
> log files (e.g.KBnnnnnn.log). I presume it is safe to remove these files
> but what are the consequences of doing so?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill Ridgeway
>

Bill Ridgeway wrote:
> MS Disk Cleanup doesn't remove as many redundant files as Cleanup!
> (http://www.stevengould.org/) and I've just come across CCleaner
> (http://www.ccleaner.com/) which removes even more. I've used and
> trusted Cleanup! for some while now. However, CCleaner suggests
> removing Windows log files (e.g.KBnnnnnn.log). I presume it is
> safe to remove these files but what are the consequences of doing
> so?

Not much of one if you do not need to uninstall the patches. Not much of
one even if you do have to uninstall the patches, I believe. It's really
the "$" directories that matter then. So - I would say - troubleshooting
the changes the patches made may be made more difficult if you erase these
files.

If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can delete the
uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has installed...
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm

You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but your
latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..

When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:

- Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
Control Panel, and click Power Options).
- Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
"System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
hiberfil.sys file.
- Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.

You can control how much space your System Restore can use...

1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
the "Settings" button.
4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest moving
the slider until you have just about 1GB (1024MB or close to that...)
5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.

You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize...

Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
size between 64MB and 128MB..

- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
- Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
- Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
following:
- Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
- Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
something between 64MB and 128MB. (It may be MUCH larger right
now.)
- Click OK.
- Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
(the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
minutes or more.)
- Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
Explorer.

You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
temporary files and use that to get rid of those:

Ccleaner (Free!)
http://www.ccleaner.com/

Other ways to free up space..

SequoiaView
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

JDiskReport
http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html

Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.

If you are concerned over less than 5GB of space total at any given time
being freed up on your hard disk drive - then something is wrong and
you would be better off spending a little and putting in a drive that is
likely 3-8 times as large as what you have not and not concerning
yourself over such a small amount of space OR you seriously need
to consider what you really need on the system and what should be
archived.

Basic housekeeping 101... - in an actual home, if your storage area gets
full - you either have to decide what you really should have in the storage
area and what could go or you have to find a new place to store stuff
that will accommodate everything you need. You don't walk into a
warehouse of cars, look at the filing cabinet in the corner where
you keep all the records for the cars and decide that if you move it out of
the warehouse - you will have more room for cars. ;-)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Don't have TOOLS in Internet Explorer.

Bill Ridgeway wrote:
> MS Disk Cleanup doesn't remove as many redundant files as Cleanup!
> (http://www.stevengould.org/) and I've just come across CCleaner
> (http://www.ccleaner.com/) which removes even more. I've used and
> trusted Cleanup! for some while now. However, CCleaner suggests
> removing Windows log files (e.g.KBnnnnnn.log). I presume it is
> safe to remove these files but what are the consequences of doing
> so?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Not much of one if you do not need to uninstall the patches. Not
> much of one even if you do have to uninstall the patches, I
> believe. It's really the "$" directories that matter then. So - I
> would say - troubleshooting the changes the patches made may be
> made more difficult if you erase these files.
>
> If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can
> delete the uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has
> installed... http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm
>
> You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but
> your latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..
>
> How to use Disk Cleanup
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312
>
> You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..
>
> When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the
> system's memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of
> the hiberfil.sys file will always equal the amount of physical
> memory in your system. If you don't use the hibernate feature and
> want to recapture the space that Windows uses for the hiberfil.sys
> file, perform the following steps:
> - Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start,
> Settings, Control Panel, and click Power Options).
> - Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check
> box, then click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting
> Never under the "System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab
> doesn't delete the hiberfil.sys file.
> - Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power
> Schemes tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.
>
> You can control how much space your System Restore can use...
>
> 1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
> 2. Click the System Restore tab.
> 3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and
> click on the "Settings" button.
> 4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I
> suggest moving the slider until you have just about 1GB (1024MB or
> close to that...) 5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.
>
> You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can
> utilize...
> Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores
> to a size between 64MB and 128MB..
>
> - Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
> - Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
> - Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section,
> do the following:
> - Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
> - Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:"
> to something between 64MB and 128MB. (It may be MUCH larger right
> now.)
> - Click OK.
> - Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline
> contents" (the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this
> could take 2-10 minutes or more.)
> - Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open
> Internet Explorer.
>
> You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
> temporary files and use that to get rid of those:
>
> Ccleaner (Free!)
> http://www.ccleaner.com/
>
> Other ways to free up space..
>
> SequoiaView
> http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/
>
> JDiskReport
> http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html
>
> Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being
> used.
> If you are concerned over less than 5GB of space total at any given
> time being freed up on your hard disk drive - then something is
> wrong and you would be better off spending a little and putting in a drive
> that is likely 3-8 times as large as what you have not and not
> concerning yourself over such a small amount of space OR you seriously
> need
> to consider what you really need on the system and what should be
> archived.
>
> Basic housekeeping 101... - in an actual home, if your storage area
> gets full - you either have to decide what you really should have
> in the storage area and what could go or you have to find a new
> place to store stuff that will accommodate everything you need. You don't
> walk into a
> warehouse of cars, look at the filing cabinet in the corner where
> you keep all the records for the cars and decide that if you move
> it out of the warehouse - you will have more room for cars. ;-)

Grumpy wrote:
> Don't have TOOLS in Internet Explorer.

You should... And do - it may be hidden in IE7 - but that is easily
resolved.

Display and show the Classic Menus on top of Internet Explorer 7 Window
Temporarily:

Simply press the Alt key for a while and release it, and the menu bar will
be displayed on top of the Internet Explorer 7 window.


Unhide and Bring Back the Menu Bar on top of IE7 Window Permanently:

Click on Tools then select the Menu Bar (a tick should appear to the left of
Menu Bar), and the Menu Bar will be shown until you unclick (or unselect)
the Menu Bar from Tools menu again.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Do you have a Menu Bar?

How do I display the Internet Explorer menu?

The menus that were displayed in earlier versions of Internet Explorer
are turned off in Internet Explorer 7, but you can turn them back on.
To display the menus temporarily
Open Internet Explorer.
Press ALT.
To display the menus permanently
Open Internet Explorer.
Click the Tools button and then select Menu Bar.
To turn the menus off, repeat the steps above to clear the check mark.
Source: Internet Explorer Help

--



Hope this makes you a happier bunny.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Grumpy wrote:
> Don't have TOOLS in Internet Explorer.